Al Jean's idea of how the show should end.

[Steamed Hams]

Al mentioned this in regards to how he feels The Simpsons should end once the seasons are finished.

So what are your thoughts in regards to this and how would you like to see The Simpsons in their finale?

[Financial Panther]

Yeah, I remember him saying that. I don't think that's a bad idea, actually, although I don't know how many people would actually get it. I think Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind would have made a great finale, actually. The finale would ideally be a fairly unique episode like Eternal Moonshine, and I would like to see some well-executed emotional scenes. Sadly, I don't know how well they would be able to do that nowadays. I know others have said that Holidays of Future Passed would make a good finale, although I would prefer the finale be an episode set in the present.

[Steamed Hams]

Yeah, there's so many things they could do really ain't they? I'm sure whatever they do will be great and I think that I'll be very happy with it simply cause we'll have had a full show with so many seasons that's just fantastic and one of the greatest shows of all time. As I say the collection once done is going to be one amazing collection for people to have

[duffman]

I genuinely hope that the finale doesn't cycle back to the first episode.

The first episode is where they first get Santa's Little Helper, and given the handful of episodes which focus on the dog and all the episodes that shows him in the background makes no sense to me. I know continuity is really hit and miss with the show, but I'd personally really hate that.

I saw a theory video on YouTube where the theory was that Bart, grown up, is pitching an animated show to Fox based on his life called "The Groenings" which I thought was a really cool idea.

[spankologicalprofile]

I think a huge finale movie would be really cool personally, but as of right now it seems like the big movie was the 2007 dome-over-the-town one. There are so many ways that it could go I guess.

[Steamed Hams]

Yeah, the movie I think would be pretty touch and go for them simply because they will be open to a lot of criticism straight away. Everyone will compare it to the first movie and then be like should they or shouldn't they kinda thing.

I read on the other forum someones idea about telling us the story of the intro such as why Bart is writing on the blackboard, the story about Homer and the platinum rod and they all end up on the couch together at the end. I thought that was a pretty good idea to be honest

[spankologicalprofile]

Jun 26, 2017 9:42:40 GMT Steamed Hams said:

Yeah, the movie I think would be pretty touch and go for them simply because they will be open to a lot of criticism straight away. Everyone will compare it to the first movie and then be like should they or shouldn't they kinda thing.

I read on the other forum someones idea about telling us the story of the intro such as why Bart is writing on the blackboard, the story about Homer and the platinum rod and they all end up on the couch together at the end. I thought that was a pretty good idea to be honest

Same here; I mean, depending on who does the last of The Simpsons, they might try to make it go out with a bang, but I've found that many shows that try to do something huge and shocking end up ignoring the actual characters and it loses its quality. I think a simpler Springfield-centric story about the intro would be a good closing for the series, as it would show both the elementary school and the nuclear power plant and give a chance to mention all the other characters while still focusing on Bart and Homer. I also don't know if bringing in the usual guest star cameo would be the best idea for the final episode or movie. Do you think they'll bring in a guest star, or keep the last episode centered more around the Simpsons characters themselves?

[Financial Panther]

I wouldn't want them to bring in a guest star for the last episode. At least not for a prominent role. It definitely needs to focus on the Simpson family, and I think a prominent guest star would cheapen it.

[Steamed Hams]

Jun 26, 2017 14:53:34 GMT spankologicalprofile said:

Jun 26, 2017 9:42:40 GMT Steamed Hams said:

Yeah, the movie I think would be pretty touch and go for them simply because they will be open to a lot of criticism straight away. Everyone will compare it to the first movie and then be like should they or shouldn't they kinda thing.

I read on the other forum someones idea about telling us the story of the intro such as why Bart is writing on the blackboard, the story about Homer and the platinum rod and they all end up on the couch together at the end. I thought that was a pretty good idea to be honest

Same here; I mean, depending on who does the last of The Simpsons, they might try to make it go out with a bang, but I've found that many shows that try to do something huge and shocking end up ignoring the actual characters and it loses its quality. I think a simpler Springfield-centric story about the intro would be a good closing for the series, as it would show both the elementary school and the nuclear power plant and give a chance to mention all the other characters while still focusing on Bart and Homer. I also don't know if bringing in the usual guest star cameo would be the best idea for the final episode or movie. Do you think they'll bring in a guest star, or keep the last episode centered more around the Simpsons characters themselves?

I'd really like that intro idea, the only problem is they wouldn't do it now if they knew it was an idea from a fan on the internet because they're not allowed to have idea's pitched to them and things, which is understandable really as that person at any point could be like 'Oh that's my idea, I want some copyright' or something and it wouldn't be worth the hassle. I do really like that idea though as the intro has always been a thing with The Simpsons people have always recognised.

Jun 26, 2017 16:54:13 GMT Financial Panther said:

I wouldn't want them to bring in a guest star for the last episode. At least not for a prominent role. It definitely needs to focus on the Simpson family, and I think a prominent guest star would cheapen it.

I agree with the guest star thing, I'd prefer not to have it also as I'd like the last episode to be focused on the characters in Springfield which shouldn't be taken away from them, specially in the last episode. I'd like it to be a big thing that gives us something like the intro idea but at the same time, just a nice good episode I'd be happy with.

You know whatever they do isn't going to please everyone though. I mean if they do a big episode that goes out with a bang people will criticise it saying they didn't like it, if they don't people will say they didn't do a big ending like they should have so I think they need to concentrate outside of that and just do what's best for them and what they think is best. To be fair they've always brought us quality TV regardless of the debates about certain seasons, they have, so whatever they do will be pretty good and I doubt any of us would have done a better job. So I'll probably be quite content with what they do to be honest and happy with it cause it will be what's right for them if that makes sense

[spankologicalprofile]

Jun 26, 2017 17:25:15 GMT Steamed Hams said:

That's true; everybody's a critic these days and there's just no pleasing some people. I think that whatever they do will probably impress me though; although I love some episodes more than others, I can't recall an episode that I blatantly hated, and I think the creators generally know their fanbase and what draws them to the show to begin with. I would hope that the show doesn't end for a long time, but when it does at least I think they'll probably try to do the best work they can on the last episode.

[Steamed Hams]

Yeah, same here. It's like when the later seasons get criticised so much it's kinda hard to defend them because you'll get accused of being a blind fan or whatever and it's like, even though the episodes may not be the classics they were they are still high quality TV and probably some of the best TV still to this day, well to be fair it's managed to stay on prime time TV so that says a lot really as it just wouldn't be there if it wasn't up to par.

It's like some of the seasons that seem to be a little less for people are still better than some of the best seasons of other shows, I always say how The Simpsons though kinda became their own competition. It's like the Michael Jackson thing, everything he did was compared to Thriller or not as good as Thriller to most people simply because that album was so great and iconic so everything he did was compared to that, yet even his albums such as Invincible was still better than most artists best albums. Dangerous, Bad etc... definitely was but my point is he became his own competition because he set the bar so high everyone expected him to do that and more each time and it's just not possible. This then makes your other work look less in comparison but if Thriller never existed and wasn't there to be compared to, Bad, Dangerous etc... would still be seen as some of the greatest albums of all time. The Simpsons kinda have the same thing with the first 10 seasons or more (this varies on people's feelings but the first ten are usually a set thing), it's not like their recent seasons and episodes aren't good it's just they are competing with what they brought before and that's what everybody expects from them and then they'll say The Simpsons are shit now because of this bu that'#s not really the case.

Had those earlier seasons not existed they probably wouldn't get as much criticism now and probably would get a bit more praise for the later seasons I think

[spankologicalprofile]

Jun 28, 2017 12:44:45 GMT Steamed Hams said:

Yeah, same here. It's like when the later seasons get criticised so much it's kinda hard to defend them because you'll get accused of being a blind fan or whatever and it's like, even though the episodes may not be the classics they were they are still high quality TV and probably some of the best TV still to this day, well to be fair it's managed to stay on prime time TV so that says a lot really as it just wouldn't be there if it wasn't up to par.

It's like some of the seasons that seem to be a little less for people are still better than some of the best seasons of other shows, I always say how The Simpsons though kinda became their own competition. It's like the Michael Jackson thing, everything he did was compared to Thriller or not as good as Thriller to most people simply because that album was so great and iconic so everything he did was compared to that, yet even his albums such as Invincible was still better than most artists best albums. Dangerous, Bad etc... definitely was but my point is he became his own competition because he set the bar so high everyone expected him to do that and more each time and it's just not possible. This then makes your other work look less in comparison but if Thriller never existed and wasn't there to be compared to, Bad, Dangerous etc... would still be seen as some of the greatest albums of all time. The Simpsons kinda have the same thing with the first 10 seasons or more (this varies on people's feelings but the first ten are usually a set thing), it's not like their recent seasons and episodes aren't good it's just they are competing with what they brought before and that's what everybody expects from them and then they'll say The Simpsons are shit now because of this bu that'#s not really the case.

Had those earlier seasons not existed they probably wouldn't get as much criticism now and probably would get a bit more praise for the later seasons I think

Definitely, and I think too the struggle that The Simpsons has faced lately, is trying to stay current. For many fans, especially younger viewers, they expect more references to digital tech, cell phones, the latest pop culture icons, and more crass humor. I think The Simpsons has done a great job of including this stuff up to a certain point, but not letting it overwhelm the show or overcloud the numerous characters we all know and love. There were fans who said that the series should have ended at Season 4, so I'm really glad that it continued on regardless.

[Steamed Hams]

Jun 28, 2017 22:10:51 GMT spankologicalprofile said:

Definitely, and I think too the struggle that The Simpsons has faced lately, is trying to stay current. For many fans, especially younger viewers, they expect more references to digital tech, cell phones, the latest pop culture icons, and more crass humor. I think The Simpsons has done a great job of including this stuff up to a certain point, but not letting it overwhelm the show or overcloud the numerous characters we all know and love. There were fans who said that the series should have ended at Season 4, so I'm really glad that it continued on regardless.

I agree, there is also the fact people keep on comparing ratings which is pretty much no point now as people don't even watch TV as much as they used to with the internet, catch up services and all things like that. There are so many factors plus people also forget the PC thing we're in now too where so many shows are restricted due to many reasons alongside the fact people complain about anything they have to be careful, specially Fox who are hosting the show they will no doubt have their restrictions on the show now. I mean it's proved this really with The Simpsons Movie as look at how much that broke out of that because it wasn't in that restriction, people seem to forget this.

I do agree that they do a good job with keeping up with things but I think this is the problem they face really but no one seems to really take that on board.